Heads up: This isn’t a benefit auction post. You can jump to another section of the blog for that.
I was just so disappointed in a presentation I attended today that I typed up this post to clear my head and to remind myself of what not to do when I’m next giving a speak-to-sell presentation.
A couple of months ago, I had lunch with my friend Suzanne. She had recently launched her own business and was commenting that she’d invested in a program from Daymond John Academy. She thought I’d get something out of it. “And it was only ~$1000,” she said.
“Who is Daymond John?” was my response.
I’m likely one of the last people who hasn’t yet watched Shark Tank. Certainly I’m the last business owner to tune in. My other friend Sue — also an entrepreneur — swears by the show. But as I really don’t enjoy watching TV, it’s hard to make it a priority.
Yet Suzanne was so excited about it! She commented that many elements of my business seemed to follow the plan he advocated. She encouraged me to check him out. So when I heard a radio spot advertising that the Daymond John seminar was back in DC, I registered. I drove over to buy his program.
Yes, BUY.
I wasn’t really interested in hearing the 2-hour presentation because I was already sold. Suzanne sensed I’d like it and $800 isn’t much for a business training program. I was a “HELL YES” and prepared to pay! In fact, I sat in the rear corner of the 150-chair room (before organizers asked me to move closer to the front) so I could be first to the sales table, located in the back.
But first, I had to sit through a 2-hour presentation. That’s when I got UNsold.
I do a lot of marketing online, but there is always more to learn. And there is no doubt that Daymond John, a fashion mogul, has a lot more money than I. But on this day — when I was PREPARED to buy and was UNSOLD because of the process — I felt like I’d turned a corner. I was able to appreciate some of my own business mentors who have educated on “old school” speak-to-sell styles versus contemporary approaches. This was old school, male-centric selling.
For the most part, I don’t blame the presenter. He’s likely given a script to memorize. Who knows … perhaps he closed much of the room. I’ve no doubt they will have a lot of people attend the Daymond John Academy; they had a lot of people attend these free sessions. I think the closing ratio would be interesting, especially the rate among more established business owners.
But as his style didn’t speak to me, I began to question the approach of the entire program.
If I was revamping the pitch to get someone like me to buy, here are three changes I’d make.
Open with authenticity
During the pitch, “Mack” (I don’t recall his name … I’ll call him Mack) said that people buy from those they know, like and trust. I agree. So how about getting us to know, like and trust YOU?
Get us on your side upfront, by pulling back the curtain and revealing some vulnerability that resonates with us entrepreneurs. Recall that even though you’re representing Daymond John, it’s YOU we’re buying into that day. Mack was the face of the company and a taste of what was to come — good or bad.
Instead of launching the presentation by chiding / berating us for being quiet as we evaluate you, draw us in with a story.
For instance, about an hour into his pitch when he received a text, Mack commented that it was his son’s birthday. “I texted him just before I came onstage,” he said, “That’s one text I gotta take!”
In my opinion, that’s what should have been the lead-in. I imagine a 10-minute opening drawing us entrepreneurs down an emotional path, such as …
“I have something personal to share with you,” Mack’s opening words could have been, “I’m waiting on a really important text today. It’s the kind of text that — whatever I’m doing, and wherever I am — I’m going to stop and read it. I want to warn you of this so you don’t think I am being rude. I promise you, you’ll get some great information today on building your business. And I promise you, I’ll cover everything I’m supposed to cover. But when this text comes, my presentation will momentarily go on hold so I can respond.
The reason being is that today is my son’s birthday. His name is Joey and he means the world to me. In fact, since I knew I was going to be with you today and couldn’t be with him, I made a point of spending all weekend with him. That’s no small feat because he’s an energetic 8-year-old and I’m nearly 45! So when he texts me, I want to read it.”
And then Mack could transition …
“I’m sure everyone here today has a person or two or three that they care deeply about like I do with Joey. You may have a family that depends on you. It’s tough leaving a paycheck to do your own thing. It’s tough making financial commitments in yourself when your child wants to go to summer camp. And it’s not uncommon to feel uneasy AND excited about your new venture.
“You want to feel financially capable for you AND those you love. In fact, it was my family that made me want to break out of my poverty cycle about 15 years ago. I just felt like I could do more. I WANTED to do more for my wife and I. Sadly, it didn’t go well for us in those early years and dissolved in a painful divorce. I took a long road to becoming a millionaire because I made a big mistake early on in that I didn’t get the help I needed upfront. I was stubborn.
But as I came around … as I started to learn about growing a business … it propelled my life and business forward. You’ll learn some of those strategies today, and some of you will learn even more strategies in the Daymond John Academy. My life changed when I started investing in myself. Today, I’m remarried. I’ve got a great kid and wife and life. And you could have a life that you’re happier with, too.
“So let’s get started. But don’t forget … when Joey sends me a text, I’m stopping to respond.”
That would be personal and authentic. Honest. And a big boon to the know, like, and trust factor.
Drop the “WHATs”
Old school speak-to-sell approaches are keen on getting audiences to participate verbally.
“You want to make a million dollars?” the speaker will say in hyper-style, “Lemme hear you shout, YES!”
“YES!” the audience is supposed to yell … and then obediently run to the back of the room and buy the program being offered. It’s a bit like a church tent revival.
At the seminar, Mack attempted to engage us by adding in a rhetorical WHAT: 
- “… and you’re going to WHAT? go to work and hate it…”
- “… created a global WHAT? brand through his WHAT? fashion line…”
- “…we will help you WHAT? save time because time is WHAT? money”
I doubt he realizes just how repetitive he was. But if he listens to a 2 minute recording of himself, he’ll get it.
It’s either an attempt at engagement … or he’s nervous. In any case, it was distracting. I thought about Macklemore’s Thrift Shop rap whereby he begins with 32 repetitive WHATs (technically, “WHAs”)
Then I began to imagine that old drinking game, whereby friends drink a shot each time – for example – the President says the word “hope” in a State of the Union address. Every WHAT?, drink. We couldn’t have kept up…
I’m not joking about the overuse of the technique. The photo of my notes (see above) represents ~30 minutes of WHATs in the 2 hour talk. He was a fast talker, too, so I only caught a fraction of the total.
Don’t bury the offer
The tail end of the presentation is when we heard about the program. I was hungry for more details about this. The offer – the most important part – seemed hurriedly rushed through at the end, almost glossed over.
We were told the Academy is three full days filled with knowledgeable presenters. OK. Who are they? Can you feature one or two?
Can we hear a couple of success stories?
And what exactly am I doing in those three days? What’s the format? We all know that business models vary among industries, so is there a “track” I can join, to better model my industry and/or interests? For instance, if I’m not interested in learning about patents, are there other concurrent sessions for me?
Are there small group discussions? Or pitching rooms where students can practice pitches to other students as instructors observe?
Are there alternate dates? If I can’t attend the dates you gave (and I couldn’t), can I pay now and attend in another city, or attend in 6 months when you’re back in DC? (These are the kinds of points that make it easy for me to buy it now, even if I can’t use the program right away.)
Or is the Academy presenter after presenter talking?
(By the way, the cost was ~$1300, which I find still reasonable.)
In closing …
At the end of the two hours, some people (~6) rushed to the back of the room to sign up, ready to pay. I’m sure others eventually signed up too. But I left.
(Incidentally, at some sales programs like this, the room is “seeded” with one or two people whose job is to rush to the back, in order to make the offer look desirable to unknowing participants. I’ve no idea if they seed the room for this talk. It *is* an old-school technique, though.)
Two hours not wasted, but not necessarily well-spent, either.
I just signed up for the ‘free’ seminar. However I was looking for comments like these. I hate ‘bait and switch’ ‘free’ events that feed on people’s vulnerabilities, gullibility, and ignorance. Thanks everyone for your honesty. I still may attend the event and purposely leave my credit card at home! Wink, wink 😉
I went to the event in Secaucus, NJ and he actually attended this one! There were over 400 people there & many signed upto attend the 3 day seminar for $1,297! I almost signed up, but one of the speakers mentioned if you don’t feel it in your heart & your head, don’t do it! I felt it in my heart, but I’m expecting a baby soon and will be taking some time off work. Any cash is going towards the baby. Therefore, I didn’t feel it in my head and didn’t sign up.
Grant Cordone was the first guest speaker, and I had no idea who he was until I attended, but he seems pretty legit! Instead of attending the 3-day course, I’m going to catch up on his books, videos and start following him on Instagram. Daymond John came out last and since it was past 10 pm, a lot of people were walking out on his panel interview. The interview was a little boring anyways. We each received an autographed copy of his book if we were a VIP attendee and lunch was served for everyone. Ultra-VIP received a picture with Daymond John. I purchased the regular VIP admission to this one-day seminar for about $40 and that was for the autographed book, lunch and I sat in the second row. The ultra-VIP was $250. I’d say the one-day was fine for the $40, but I wouldn’t spend more for anything else. At the end of the seminar they handed out a portable charger to everyone in attendance.
do you still have the package they gave out with the “cancellation contract” ? It states in it that if you do buy, and cancel within three days, you can get a full refund. Do you know if anyone who attended did this and got a refund? I did, but no refund after three months.
I registered for the seminar which is to take place this afternoon in Northern CA. The whole time I have been anticipating this I was under the impression that Daymond John himself would be there. I’ve been to events disguised as seminars to simply get folks to buy into a class/bootcamp and you leave with books and binders of so much information that you barely know where to start. My husband is a skeptic so I asked one of my girlfriends who’s also a business owner to come with me. I decided to look at some reviews and it brought me here. Her not being available to go today helped me make the decision to decline attending today.
I went to the seminar today in Oakland, and it was a total sales pitch. I stayed through the whole thing, but I didn’t sign-up. I was under the impression that DJ would be there, and I was disappointed from the very beginning when he shows-up on a video screen – then introduced the first speaker. I had no clue that there would be pushing real-estate so hard.
Glad to see the reviews here; thank you!
Did anyone who paid over $15,000 made their money back by following the program?
Did anyone get the education they were promised to receive before paying?
I lost almost $17,000 and did not get any education from them. Nothing. If anyone is interested in joining, we need to fight back so no more innocent people fall victim to this type of embezzlement.
Yes, lost over $15,000. I regret to believe their gimmick and got played into making $$$. I am trying with the mentor to make some money but until now, I am just spending cash on advertising, marketing etc. The mentor even tried to pitch selling more of his services without delivering the results with the current one, how arrogant that is? They advertise that they are the best coach, actually some of the stuffs I told my mentor after doing a ton of research which he did not know. I would have done much better using youtube videos than their program. There are lot of small things in starting and running a business for which I thought I am paying to get my life easier but no, the coaches are kinda useless, they tell same thing in 30 mins call which you can know from anywhere else.
On the card that they send they stated that people could win prizes all day is that true. This event is held Nov 15th, 2018 in Tarry-town NJ and Robert will be hosting this event. I thank everybody for writing a review this was very helpful.
I just went (2) of the free special invitation seminars in NJ. Since I could also stay for an hour for the first seminar I decided to travel to Trenton the next night to hear the rest of the pitch. I will tell you there were more than 300+ people at the first seminar and almost 200 at the 2nd. I would say more than 90-95% of the people were there to see John. That’s great if you can get that many people to attend. I’m in the service industry so I wanted to see the sales pitch. And it was a sales pitch with Daymond John as the bait.
The presenter was slick; talked about “you need to make a decision now”; make an investment in your self (which I liked and will use in my business); gave some ridiculous tax-advantage advise about setting up a corporation (like this really make sense to most people in the audience); and then at the end did something I really enjoyed. He asked for a show of hands of those people who wanted to attend the 3-day workshop. Then he asked them to stand and asked those sitting to give them a hand and clap. (I really liked that.)
Then he started running from the front to the back and said to those standing; “follow me to the back and sign-up for your 3-day life changing experience.” I watched as people ran with him; waited in line; a few signed something; but most just drifted away. Out of about 200 people it didn’t look like more than a handful registered. The speaker didn’t seem concerned. Maybe because the people who registered are prey to be up-sold for the $20,000-$40,000 programs. Some of the people I could see being easily talked into spending more than the $1,997.00. Funny number $1,997.00.
I stayed for the 2nd half as well. A real estate expert. With less than 50 people left he seemed annoyed. I enjoyed listening to him but he said something that turned me off. He was the same speaker at the session the night before. He stated this session by saying, “I’m a little tired because I just took the red-eye from California to Philly.” He was in Toms River, NJ the night before. Guess he should have altered his script a little.
I thought I might attend his 3-day workshop; show up with a few hundred dollars and see if they would enroll me. Might be worth $200.00.
Not the $1,997 or if you buy both $998.00.
Overall, if you’re in sales and you like to hear different sales techniques (since it’s free); go. But if you’re thinking that the Daymond John’s Success team is going to give you the magic sauce save your money. You can learn about 95% of what they’re going to tell you by going to YOUTUBE. One last thing, they tell you about a guarantee, try and collect. For $1,995 are you going to hire an attorney to collect? It’ll cost you $500 – $1,000 for an attorney. Save your money.
I got an invitation to this Free “Daymond John” seminar in Seattle WA and attended the event last night, I too was naive enough to think that Daymond would be there, but was disappointed to see how they had scammed this making you think he was showing up, but it was actually a few of his “Team” people that showed up to give the pitches.
I say it was deceptive all the way to the end because when the presenter first came up to address the crowd, he admonished everyone to turn their cell phones off or to silent, and that “this is one of the things that Daymond John really hates so please turn off your cell phones”. This in itself made me think that he was coming out to present to us shortly.
Anyhow, like most posters here I also noticed the boiler plate rah-rah pitch that the DJ Team member gave (Rob Lett was his name), along with his rags-to-riches story of making $2 Million on a business started when he was a teenager as a landscaper etc…..and they he went to another seminar where he got motivated again and proceeded to have a successful business and make back the $2 Million+ (rags to riches to rags back to riches). The pitch and promises were too good to be true. That is why I never thought about signing up even for the offered price of $1997 and you can bring another guest with you too for the 3 day seminar.
I was very turned off, but I can see how people can get suckered into signing up for this right away, based on the psychology and hype they use. When they showed us the “OMNI-Channels” that they teach you to use to sell your products I thought to myself “why would I need them for that, I can use each and every one of those channels to sell anything if I have a product to sell, what gives?”. Sites like Amazon, Ebay, Shopify etc…. that was just one example of what I suspected one would get at the 3-day seminar (not much at all in my estimation).
In the second pitch where another one of his associates came in to pitch a Real Estate 3-day Seminar for the same price of $1997, I tell you that was so motivating it sounded like I was missing out on making hundreds of thousands and I was almost tempted to sign up. But then caught myself and thought to myself again “too good to be true, another semi-scam” and really if you think about it logically, if these guys know so much about this sure-fire method of making so much easy money, why aren’t they gobbling up these properties and becoming multi-millionaires in no time, why do they have to travel the country to show other people how to do it, why aren’t they just enjoying their free time and all that money they making, why go to all this trouble?
It just makes no sense to me, that is why I never get suckered into these pressure sales pitches based on cheap psychology. I would recommend to anyone attending this free seminar if you want to go just go for the information and make up your mind to NOT buy anything no matter how good it sounds, give it time, let it sink in, give yourself plenty of time to mull it over before forking over at least $2K, don’t rush such decisions most likely you will end up regretting it and it will be money wasted, not money well-spent.
Good luck.
I went to that seminar at the Hilton yesterday too. Thank god we didn’t get scammed like so many did in that room. It was so sad to see how happy they were. They have no idea what they’re about to lose 🙁 I wish I had a way to contact those people and save them and their families from getting their lives ruined. Fuck Daymond John for being apart of this scam. Hopefully someone will put him in a body bag for what he’s doing to innocent people.
I went to a presentation yesterday. While they did make it more a little more personal, they still have lots of work to do. It definitely was very old school and male-centric selling. They had about 10 male workers and only had 1 female worker ( her only job was to “check you in” to the even and then she disappeared). The main speaker told us his rags to riches story. How he made $1million, lost it all and then came back stronger and made even more $$. He claimed to have many successful businesses- which seem scratchy off that bat. If he is so successful, why wouldn’t he be enjoying life instead of traveling around to big cities, staying in a double tree and giving these sales pressured talks? Didn’t add up.
They started off saying the cost of the 3 day workshop was $5k but if you signed up today it was $1,997. Similar to what you said, at the end of the event I had no idea what the 3day workshop included or who was doing it. Or when you could go again if you couldn’t attend the 3 day event coming up in 2 weeks.
They then had a 2nd speaker who is trying to sell some real estate buying program. He literally yelled at us for 45min. I left with a headache.
The entire 3hrs felt like a waste of time for me. It all felt very car sales man like with a lot of psychological sales pressure. Huge waste of anyone times. Pretty disappointed that Daymond John would put his name on this.
I attended the same presentation with same presenters in Maryland. Even though I am interested in real estate, I tuned out the second speaker but stayed because I wanted to get my free gifts so I felt like I got something out of my time.
It should be noticed that over 50% of attendees were female but no females working the signup tables.
Question I left with – How to find a business mentor that is not trying to upsell?
Went to the Minneapolis Success Formula get you to p[art with 2 grand in two weeks presentation last night.
I give presentations for a living . I have two direct marketing companies and a holding company. They did an excellent job of telling you why you’re broke, then proceeded to offend everyone in the room who had any business sense and convinced about 5 people into paying $2,000 for a 3 day intensive that will just be another sales pitch to buy the next seminar .. the speaker was following the MMI “train the trainer script” but was breaking multiple rules of that same script . The room started off with about 300 people By the 1/2 way point there was maybe 75 people still there . I ended up writing my next training talk on how “One of those Programs” sells their worthless product to you. so, it wasn’t a complete waste of my time . I enjoyed the sales pitch none the less.
Hey thanks! Would it be too crAZY TO ask you to send me mmi sales script please! Cr34t0red@gmail.com
Here is a BBB review ahead of Daymond’s 2017 “Wealth Summit”:
https://www.bbb.org/stlouis/news-events/bbb-warnings/2017/08/breakthrough-wealth/
His no-show at a 2016 Dallas seminar:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdog/2016/09/29/daymond-john-abc-shark-tank-host-business-seminars
Discussions of his Academy on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/3xr3oa/my_review_of_daymond_johns_launch_academy_ugh/
and here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/1g1ysu/has_anyone_attended_the_daymond_johns_academy/
Lastly, a good article by FINRA about the sales tactics in free-lunch financial seminars:
http://www.finra.org/investors/alerts/free-lunch-investment-seminars
I just left the seminar. I was a bit disappointed that Daymond wasn’t there but the propaganda got me. I signed up but they also talked me out of it during the second half when they tried to sell us a real estate program with Doug Hawkins for an additional $1997. I went to the back and cancelled my order and they were very rude about it. I’m glad that they did the second part because it brought me back down to reality.
I attended the free seminar in Thousand Oaks and was sold into the 3-day one for $1,995.00. Attended that one too and I can tell you, I did not hear anything new or worth the price. Selling on Amazon, we already do and there is nothing to learn about it, just go to Amazon website and sign for it. I think it is really a waste of time and money. The guy spent at least 5 hours of the 20 total attended in selling the next level up for $25,000+, $12,000.00 to attend the Vegas one where you can talk to Daymond. They present videos of success histories, but you are not attending to listen to those histories, you are attending to learn how to better run your business. In the marketing materials, the “satisfaction warranty” states that if you apply the 28+ practices they teach you at the seminar, your business should grow at least 20%. Well, I didn’t see any of those “practices” in real terms. Save your money, learn how to run your business and get away from “too nice to be true” schemas.
Hello, we have asked to get a refund for the 3 day course and they did refund our moneyback. But do we need to send the package that they gave us when we signed up on that 3 day course? Or can we just keep It?
Did you have to return the items? I’m glad I read this too. I just called to cancel the 3 day seminar.
I so appreciate all these comments. I just went to the seminar this past weekend in Pittsburgh and Trey, the speaker, seemed very arrogant. When he was almost done with his presentation, he said, if you’ve watched “Shark Tank” you know you only have seconds to decide…same here, you need to decide quickly what you want to do!! That turned me off, but I still wanted to sign up for the 3-day course. I didn’t have the $1997 at the time, so I’ve been desperately searching for the next event in Pittsburgh. I’m so glad I found this info!!! You saved me lots of money, so I will look to SCORE (which is for small business assistance, mentors free of charge).
Thanks for the objective comments. I was going to attend but decided it is nothing but a upsell on other “programs” that I can’t afford at this time. I thought about attending to meet other people but don’t want to be roped into anything with false expectations and pressed to buy. l will continue to look at the Internet and people to network with as I am looking for a new job and this seems like a bad idea.
I attended the free seminar a few weeks ago in Boston and signed up for the 3 day workshop. Thank god I realized how rash of a decision that was (because they don’t give you a lot of time to think about it since if you didn’t buy it right then and there you would have to pay twice as much). So the second I got home I decided to google the event just to make sure I wasn’t getting scammed and thank god I found this post and read these comments! I immediately called customer service the next business day and cancelled.
Did you get your money back? How long did it take to get your refund?
Thank you. I had registered for the free event and figured I should read reviews before I waste a couple of hours. I appreciate all your comments. Please let me know if you have found any other resources that you would recommend.
I too was naive thinking that DJ was going to be there. I asked the sign-in card lady, when DJ would be presenting? She said, “oh he doesn’t do small events like this.”
So the marketing material definitely misleading. And I’ve been to these selling shams before. Where you buy a weekend and that sets you up for the up sell to what ever amount you want to give the DJSF Team.
I had to laugh at myself again thinking that DJ would be there.
Went to free seminar yesterday…high pressure to sign up for 3-day workshop at $1997. Told person who took my credit card I may not be able to attend due to family illness (terminal). Family member worsened and got call within hours of attending the seminar. IMMEDIATELY called customer service requesting credit to my credit card. Was not given return auth number as stated on back of receipt. Wrote email as well 7/28 and followup emails next day. There is law which protects consumers (3 days to cancel contracts such as this one) and I reminded the person taking my credit card info of that–he said it wouldn’t be a problem (better not be). Make sure you put it in writing in email as well as calling…did not get name of customer service person 7/28, but will call again Monday which is still within 3 days. DO NOT ever want to attend anything having to do with Daymond Johns given the poor reviews. Will place transaction in dispute with credit card as well if credit not issued. The flash drive (complimentary), notebook and wrapped enclosed somethings (didn’t unwrap it) will be returned as soon as address provided on Monday. Also will request to be put on do not contact list. Sales gimmick is all this is.
did you get your funds back?
I paid 42 thousand and it was a waist of my time I am so pissed off do not do it if you read this
My sister and I got hard sold back in 2013 and lost $15,000 as a result. Now we need to help people to be aware not to experience what we had experienced with the Academy.
Hi, where you able to recovery your money back?
Wow, this was a very in lighting article. I am registered to attend the event tomorrow but I don’t think I’ll be attending. Not because of this review but because I’ve attended similar events like this in the past and needless to say” once you’ve been around the block a few times you want to skip all of the mumbo-jumbo! Honestly their’s enough free information on the Internet, and a wide range of really good consultants and coaches. Do your research put in the time and effort to make it happen for your business and you’ll be just fine!
I just signed up for the 3 day seminar and feeling some buyers remorse after reading the reviews. Please advise if I should cancel?
Did you ever get your refund
Did anyone who went to the 3 day seminar feel like it was worth it and got enough value from it to grow their business without moving on to the $20k + package?
Please share!
Did you follow through with the training workshop or cancel and what was your experience if you did attend?
just went to free seminar..
real good…I bought
3 day seminar for $1997.oo
feeling buyers remorse
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Hey there, Mel! Somehow your comment got redirected in my website comments so I’m only now seeing your post — 2 weeks after you wrote it. Sorry about the delay.
Well shucks on your buyer’s remorse, but on the bright side, it will be what you make of it. I’m sure they’ll be some gems to learn.
And actually, I’d heard the course was *more* than $1997, so maybe you got a special deal. That might make you feel better. 🙂
Just went to the same seminar today. And paid the exact same. Judging from the date of this post, I suspect you’ve already attended the 3 day course. I need your opinion please.
I’m actually sitting in the parking lot after leaving the presentation and I did not sign up !! But I would love to hear about your experience with the 3days course
Good afternoon:
Be glad that you didn’t sign up! I attended the free seminar and then paid $2,500 to go to the 3-day event in Milwaukee, WI, in September 2016. I didn’t learn anything that I hadn’t already found on Google, YouTube, or free events around Madison. Ultimately, you walk away with the bag and laptop and if you got sense, you walk away from the upsell promo that can cost anywhere from $22, 000+. I am going to try to get a refund because what I learned didn’t help me triple my fee that I paid them. Do not go to this free session and certainly don’t pay to go to the 3-day Boot Camp – needless to say, it costs thousands to get access to their mentors, trip to Vegas to pitch in front of DJ, etc. Don’t waste your time and money!
You paid $2500? What all did you pay for? In attending the 3 day workshop, you’re saying you didn’t learn anything that you didn’t already find online? They also upsell more programs and workshops while there to get access more into it?
You were lucky. I did sign up and they delivered nothing.
@Mel, @Vin, I would like to hear your experience following the 3 day workshop. I just went to a free seminar in San Antonio, and purchased the workshop for $1997 and would like to know more and what to look forward to in attendance and what they ask for afterwards. My experience in the free seminar sounds very familiar to everyone else’s but the 2nd half of the seminar they brought out another speaker to speak on Real-Estate and had a training workshop that cost the same price as the one before, and you get a deal if you do both.
How was the training?
5/7/16 – Went to a seminar last weekend, and it looks like they read your post because they changed it up quite a bit. It was still hard sell, but more personal, and polished too. I saw 20 people of 200 rush to the back to sign up. I never thought that some may be planted in advance.
Bottom line, it’s not worth it.
Nice post. Hope others get to read my comments before blindly forking over $4000! Price went up!!!
Frankly, that presentation could ONLY go up in quality. It WHAT?!? sucked. 😉
$4k seems way out of line for what they were providing. Maybe it will soon go the way of Trump University with lawsuits from people feeling they were tricked.
There are MANY outstanding business coaches whom I know and have personally worked with who lack Daymond’s name recognition but could get any focused business owner into 6 and 7 figures FAST. I’d argue that it’s better to start out with someone like that anyway, as they aren’t so “far removed” from the machine-that-is-Daymond-John.
(By the way, I still haven’t ever watched the show, but I have heard it’s good.)
They added a hard money lender(s) after the $2000 Raymond John pitch. Someone else came in to offer you a relationship with people that have all the money you will ever need to borrow and even though he caught the red eye at the last moment to add value to the first offer he would round it all out for 5k tonight.
Tons of overselling. The days of popping up in front of a mansion and a sports car in the background went away when the .com busted.
Before you get 250k out of my pocket you better come with more proof and less arrogance. Sure it has helped some people but it ruined my respect for him and can’t even stand to watch the show now.